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Post by trevnhil on Nov 22, 2008 18:25:44 GMT
Nice pictures from this afternoon Ian. And it is good that the one of the MM is actually in Heysham Harbour.
I see that MM is just in the 'Lune deeps' at the moment on AIS, Having 'disappeared during the latter part of the journey.
Good luck to all that visit the Harbour tomorrow.
Regards. Trev..
PS.. Just to make me a liar... MM is showing in the harbour entrance at 18-42 UK time
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Post by accykeef on Nov 22, 2008 19:28:02 GMT
Who knows what is going on? AIS works in Whitehaven so why not Heysham?
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Nov 22, 2008 19:50:35 GMT
MM seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth! I can't see it at all.
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Nov 22, 2008 19:55:35 GMT
News Update..... I have just rang Port Control and they say that MM will be working around the port tomorrow and leaving to pick up generators etc. BUT the lift is NOT until Monday morning low water approx 03.00am My comment well I won't get any decent shots then his reply was ' It will be WELL lit'. The Lowest tide is 2.15m on Monday, Sunday is 2.67 Tide charts www.pol.ac.uk/ntslf/tides/?port=0050She may being used to lift the generators etc and I may be able to get the shot I wont, I'll just have to go and see. That MM shot I have posted is an older one I would like to get her with the crane up. Ian
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Post by trevnhil on Nov 22, 2008 19:58:03 GMT
Hi Keith. I will try to explain, and hope I am correct. Both Ian and I are members of an AIS forum, and he may be able to explain better than I.
However..... AIS is an signal that is sent out from ships so that they can be located no matter where they are. The system is a professional one and some of the information is input by those on board. And I think that the receiving system is called 'ship plotter'
But what you have been seeing when you go on the AIS site is the professional signal, received by a group of dedicated amateurs. These people are mainly dotted about the coastal areas of the UK. So we are dependant on these people receiving the signal and passing on to the AIS website. It is a bit like the old CB radio. Some places (Heysham) are just out of range of the nearest person with a receiver.
Sorry it's long winded, but I believe it is mainly correct.
Regards. Trev..
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Nov 22, 2008 20:10:37 GMT
Is that why we can't see anything of the MM now she has arrived at Heysham?
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Post by trevnhil on Nov 22, 2008 20:13:08 GMT
Hi Willow. Yes it is just out of range normally to the nearest amateur receiver. I don't know where they will be but probably in the Liverpool area. The power station buildings block the signal as well Regards. Trev..
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Nov 22, 2008 20:21:37 GMT
Hi Keith. I will try to explain, and hope I am correct. Both Ian and I are members of an AIS forum, and he may be able to explain better than I. However..... AIS is an signal that is sent out from ships so that they can be located no matter where they are. The system is a professional one and some of the information is input by those on board. And I think that the receiving system is called 'ship plotter' But what you have been seeing when you go on the AIS site is the professional signal, received by a group of dedicated amateurs. These people are mainly dotted about the coastal areas of the UK. So we are dependant on these people receiving the signal and passing on to the AIS website. It is a bit like the old CB radio. Some places (Heysham) are just out of range of the nearest person with a receiver. Sorry it's long winded, but I believe it is mainly correct. Regards. Trev.. Spot on Trev it works like a transponder on an Aircraft so that Air traffic control can track them, but it's on ships and is only req over a certain tonnage , I did think about joining the group but I haven't been able to find out I my pc would need to be 'live' all the time plus in the west end I sometimes loose Heysham so I wasn't going to by the programme and not be able to use it. I have found out through talking to port control that THEY use the t'internet because it's cheaper. Ian
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Post by accykeef on Nov 22, 2008 21:42:19 GMT
We are out tomorrow PM so will call round to Heysham and have a look.I hope the people responsible know what is going on more than we do or it could turn out to be like something the government organise, ie. a shambles.
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Post by kidstypike on Nov 23, 2008 12:17:53 GMT
As stated previously the lift will be in the early hour of Monda morning. It is intended to lift the Abigail H up to her waterline and then to pump her out so an assessment of the leak and possible repair of same can be made.
Dave
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Post by accykeef on Nov 23, 2008 13:41:28 GMT
Sunday 0930am Approaching the terminal, the Mammoth towers over the building. The Montgomery compound Peeping over the LMS building A lot of activity on the tug Not sure what they are doing but it must be important. Problem was, I came to see the Mersey Mammoth but could only see the top of the jib. Time to move to the South Roundhead. No idea how to get there, the sign said no swimming so I had a drive over to Ocean Edge caravan park and the nature reserve. A nice bracing walk along the sea defences and eventually came to the harbour I took shelter behind the boom drum and took a few pictures. The sea was choppy, whipped up by the strong wind but I got to see the Mammoth.. They were loading what I assume was ballast onto the Mammoth
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Nov 23, 2008 13:43:29 GMT
Brilliant Keith. Nice work there!
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Post by kidstypike on Nov 23, 2008 13:53:12 GMT
Keith , Near the LMS building there is a gate in the perimeter fence of the Power Station. If you go through that it takes you over the CW intakes of the Power Stations and emerges near the S Rounhead.
Dave
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Post by accykeef on Nov 23, 2008 14:00:42 GMT
All I saw were signs warning of impending doom Is the gate near the Quayside or further back down the road?
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Post by trevnhil on Nov 23, 2008 14:30:55 GMT
Well done with the pictures Keith. You even caught a little bit of sunlight, but I don't imagine conditions were very nice down there. Especially at 9-30 on a winters morning.
I would think that the divers would be making sure what ever MM is going to attach to is OK.
And I think that it may have been large capacity pumps that were being put on board the MM.
I think they will be able to use water pumped to different tanks for ballast.
All only in my opinion though.
Cheers. Trev..
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