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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Dec 19, 2008 9:34:13 GMT
Maybe that's wishful thinking.  Actually there doesn't seem to have been much mention of this anywhere else other than here and yet look at all the fuss over the Riverdance. |
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Dec 19, 2008 15:38:30 GMT
Maybe... but I can only go of info passed on, And the "Riverdance" was in a different class altogether.. She sank in situ and there was No way that she could have been sorted so they had to salvage on seen, Where as the "Abigail H" could be towed away into a safer environment..
The daft thing is when you look at the old picks of The Stone Jetty that was a ship breakers after 1st world war and I bet they weren't bothered about pollution in those days ;D ;D
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Post by trevnhil on Dec 19, 2008 16:05:11 GMT
Towing it away presumably to Liverpool would seem to be a good option to me. As long as the hull is watertight and they choose a good patch of weather then I would not think there should be a problem. It would save an awful lot of wagon journeys to and from Heysham Harbour.
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Jan 14, 2009 19:23:53 GMT
This may be the final message.. Abigail H was towed to Fleetwood I presume to end up as scrap  Ian |
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Post by trevnhil on Jul 13, 2009 17:56:57 GMT
This may be the final message.. Abigail H was towed to Fleetwood I presume to end up as scrap Ian Well at the time of this statement it was thought to be 100% correct. BUT...... 6 month on and the report is out all about the accident. I have read it..... www.maib.gov.uk/publications/investigation_reports/2009/abigail_h.cfm But unless like me you are an enthusiast / anorak, then it may be a bit too long. To sum it all up there were only a few recommendations and no one was particularly negligent. Water got in through corroded plating in a difficult to see area whilst the crew were off duty in the evening and later asleep. The outcome for the ship............ It was declared a total loss by the insurers. However it has been returned to the owners and they are to refurbish it and put it back to work one again. So, Abigail H lives to work another day!! Regards. Trev.. |
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Jul 13, 2009 21:18:40 GMT
 Well that's excellent. It's good to know that something is worth saving. Perhaps we are growing out of the throw away society by now.
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Post by accykeef on Jul 14, 2009 9:45:01 GMT
We just don't realise the danger people are in while off duty. Smoke alarms are advisable in the home so I would have thought that some kind of alarm which detected a boat sinking would be a legal requirement on vessels where people sleep. I find it strange that there isn't a requirement for a regular check to be carried out throughout the night.
Heysham Port Authority didn't come out of this smelling of roses either.
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Post by trevnhil on Jul 14, 2009 10:43:17 GMT
I believe that a 'Bilge alarm' is mandatory in boats above a certain size. From reading the report it shows that the Abigail H was under this size and did not have to have these alarms fitted. I suppose now with hindsight they wish that they had been installed at that time. I feel sure that they will be when the refit is complete.
As you say we have smoke alarms in our houses and yet is is not compulsory. Most people think it is a good idea, whilst others only fit them after the event /fire / smoke.
As Keith says, Heysham harbour did not get a top class report and have I believe tightened up on things.
Thank goodness there was no loss of life both in the initial capsize and when the crew went back for belongings etc.
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Post by accykeef on Jul 14, 2009 12:01:45 GMT
I can't help thinking that it would have been a tragedy if it had gone over the other way or if they hadn't assesed the risk and left their tender tied alongside.
Performing risk assesment is a very dificult job but isn't that the reason why they are done by experts and not amateurs. Hindsight has always been a wonderful thing.
I also find it surprising that maritime experience is not necessary to be in charge of a port.
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Jul 18, 2009 19:11:33 GMT
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Post by trevnhil on Aug 7, 2009 18:27:51 GMT
Hi all. Well I have a big slice of 'humble pie' to eat this evening. I definitely saw somewhere (can't find it now) that the Abigail H was to be refitted by is previous owners. However I have now found that this is not correct. The proof is in a picture that I saw on a shipping forum today. I have had permission to reproduce it and it shows the Abigail H being towed to the Isle of Man to be broken up.  Sorry for the miss-information. Trev.. |
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Aug 8, 2009 10:28:45 GMT
Hi Trev, Nice pic seems a bit odd that they have already taken of the Grab and the Bridge I wonder why they didn't finish the job  Thanks for posting it.. Ian |
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Post by trevnhil on Aug 8, 2009 11:54:29 GMT
Hi Ian. There seems to be a little confusion upon the other shipping forum. The picture posted said that the Abigail H was being towed to the IOM for scrapping..... hence my apology on this forum. But now another member of the same shipping forum is saying that she is in Fleetwood. I will keep my eyes scanning. Trev.. |
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Post by trevnhil on Aug 9, 2009 7:03:18 GMT
Well, my scanning eye has been pointed in the right direction. The Abigail_ H is to be broken up.... See this quote...... "Humber Work Boat's dredger ABIGAIL H was delivered to Ramsey Shipyard on August 07, 2009. Tug ALBICORE had had delivered her from Fleetwood where she had been lying following her salvage following her sinking in Heysham Harbour on November 02, 2008. There had been suggestions that she was to be rebuilt but it now appears that the 51 year old hopper dredger will end her days at Ramsey Shipyard where she is to be broken up." There are a lot of very good pictures of her last journey to the IOM on this site... www.irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/irishcelticseas/ellanvannin/abigailh070809/abigailh070809.htmSorry for the confusion. Trev.. |
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Post by trevnhil on Oct 8, 2009 16:57:01 GMT
Well well well.
It seems like some of the Abigail H is returning across the Irish sea......
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The world HAS gone mad. Most of the Abigail H has now been dismantled at Ramsey Shipyard, for the past few days several very large bit's of her, including a complete hull cross section have been sat on a trailer in Douglas harbour, awaiting shipment on the BMC to a scrap dealer in Lancashire. There are apparently no licensed ship-breakers in that area of the UK now, so she came here. Must have cost her insurers a packet.
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I am not sure if they are correct though, about there being no licensed ship breakers on the North west coast!!
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Well that's excellent. It's good to know that something is worth saving. Perhaps we are growing out of the throw away society by now.
I had been telling my hubby about the time I was in Morecombe when the Moby Dick and Hotel was hit by lightening and burnt down. My parents, sister and myself had just come off the Moby Dick when lightening stuck