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Post by brian on Jun 8, 2010 18:39:18 GMT
Domain name: morecambelive.co.uk Registrant: NEXT STAGE DESIGN Registrant type: Unknown Registrant's address: 17 Slyne Road Bolton le Sands Carnforth LA5 8AG United Kingdom Registrar: LCN.com Ltd [Tag = LCN] URL: www.lcn.comRelevant dates: Registered on: 29-Mar-2010 Renewal date: 29-Mar-2012 Last updated: 29-Mar-2010 Registration status: Registered until renewal date. Name servers: ns0.lcn.com ns1.lcn.com domain: MORECAMBELIVE.COM owner-c: AI-754367 admin-c: AI-754367 tech-c: AI-300624 bill-c: AI-300624 nserver: ns1.lcn.com 195.82.107.156 nserver: ns0.lcn.com 94.126.40.3 created: 2010-03-29 19:27:04 expires: 2011-03-29 19:27:04 changed: 2010-03-30 09:30:04 contact-handle: AI-754367 contact: Geoff Dixon organisation: NEXT STAGE DESIGN address: 17 Slyne Road address: Bolton le Sands address: Carnforth address: LA5 8AG address: GB phone: +44.1524825385 email: contact-handle: AI-300624 contact: Hostmaster address: Units H, J, K address: Gateway 1000 address: Whittle Way address: Stevenage address: England address: SG1 2FP address: GB phone: +44.1438342490 fax: +44.1438300137 email: and that address is listed with GF Properties: www.gfpropertysales.com/pdfs/G213_3033_A3_200_30.pdfAmazing what a few minutes on google can find! ALL this information is very publicly available. Looks like our town council having paid for a web site of their own is now reliant on the More Music team to promote the town. FFS! And as for the Visitor, I refuse to be forced to pay to find out whatis going on in my own town. If the council have the time to report to the Visitor what is going on, they should have the time to tell me what's going on either by newsletter, email or web site. |
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Post by accykeef on Jun 8, 2010 19:00:09 GMT
Thought you might have been there last night Brian.
I did the 'whois' too and got the same info.
What we need is all the local information in one place rather than having to play detective each time we want to know something.
There is another meeting, on the 27th. to discuss the proposed Urban Splash development - I think I will sit at the back with my tin hat on because feelings were running high last night and we weren't even discussing it.
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Post by brian on Jun 8, 2010 19:25:12 GMT
Didn't know the meeting was on last night, I lose track of the weeks! Watch this space for a site which won't be under construction for long and will allow anyone to submit events to it. The domain name has just been registered ;D
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Post by accykeef on Jun 8, 2010 19:40:21 GMT
It's not just events Brian - it is everything local - all in one place.
I had hoped that the Council's site would fullfil that role but once again the blind have led the blind through a series of blunders and their lack of skill has led to another good idea, badly implemented.
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Post by brian on Jun 8, 2010 20:00:40 GMT
Wordpress is extremely flexible  morecambelife.co.uk/Site under construction although I only expect that to be for a few days, not years ;D I can open the site up for users to register, turn users into contributors and away we go, a local social site to which any registered user can contribute. News, RSS feeds as used in mymorecambe, etc, etc. Already the site should allow you to register in order to subscribe and has a full news feed of Morecambe topics on the News page. Not bad for what can be done in a few hours with no coding knowledge required. Now I'm annoyed with myself. I spent ages putting together a set of images to use as changeable header images on mymorecambe. In editing the other site, I found an updated theme so I uploaded it to both sites and tidied up the old versions. The header images were deleted with the old version, doh! |
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Jun 9, 2010 17:13:01 GMT
Well there is already a website which lets us know about the live events - Ron's Beside the Seaside site. |
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Post by ukuleleron on Jun 10, 2010 10:03:42 GMT
Brian wrote
>Amazing what a few minutes on google can find! ALL this information is very publicly available. Looks like our town council having paid for a web site of their own is now reliant on the More Music team to promote the town. FFS!<
I'm not quite sure how you connect More Music with this post. Morecambelive.co.uk is the website of Steve Middlesbroughs Kalimba company.
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Post by brian on Jun 10, 2010 19:59:59 GMT
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Post by ukuleleron on Jun 11, 2010 8:59:19 GMT
Surely that just shows that Geoff created the websites for both Morecambe Town Council and Morecambe Live (Part of Steve Middlesbrough's Kalimba company). It doesn't show that More Music have any connection with Morecambe Town Council other than Geoff works for More Music.
The only other connection as far as I know is that More Music have recieved a small amount of funding for their Kite Festival from MTC.
Unless I`m missing something.
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Post by accykeef on Jun 11, 2010 18:04:42 GMT
Not sure where Geoff Dixon fits into the great plan of things and I can't say I am too bothered either way but the Morecambe Town Council website was created by a bunch of 'template peddlers' from the South of England.
People may accuse me of being a bit bitter but if the Council had supported local business instead of going for an apparent bargain, they would have had a proper working website rather than the shambolic mess they are left with at present.
If they deal with the affairs of Morecambe in the same incompetent way, our delightful town is likely to be 'under construction' for quite some time to come.
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Post by brian on Jun 11, 2010 18:12:51 GMT
Surely that just shows that Geoff created the websites for both Morecambe Town Council and Morecambe Live (Part of Steve Middlesbrough's Kalimba company). It doesn't show that More Music have any connection with Morecambe Town Council other than Geoff works for More Music. The only other connection as far as I know is that More Music have recieved a small amount of funding for their Kite Festival from MTC. Unless I`m missing something. I've no problem with Geoff, no idea who he is and not trying to make a connection to the council. I just did some online checking and all the evidence points to Geoff not just designing but being the contact person for that web site with his company also named. I then find his company site uses mormusic.net resources hence the connection. What I didn't find was any connection to Mids's Kalimba which has it's own site. Anyway, accykeef is right with his comments about using a pre-built web site from outside the area. I wouldn't have minded if they'd even crossed the lune to Fivecoats. |
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Post by accykeef on Jun 11, 2010 20:14:33 GMT
I wouldn't have minded if they had sourced a company from outside the area who managed to create a website of a reasonable standard but to have bought from a company who can't even supply a basic working website, without fundamental errors is totally crazy.
In this day and age, a spotty teenager can create a basic website using any number of web packages yet a company who specialise in web design supply Morecambe Parish Council with, what can only be described as a pile of Wombat's doo doos.
I only attended the meetings of the Parish Council in the hope of being of some help but I feel that the members of the Parish Council maybe beyond help as they are too far up their own objections to the Northerly Bypass.
Time will tell whether common sense or the loudest voices will prevail.
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Post by brian on Jun 13, 2010 9:55:50 GMT
17 Slyne Road is a popular place ;D Runs www.thingstodoinmorecambe.com and the usual cross-checks reveals that address which is also home to www.draycottdesign.com/Contact.htmI think this highlights one of the problems, how many sites do we need? We've got the above, morecambe life & live, Lune Valley Audio and More Music, all there to promote the town. The council have/had the chance to bring it all together but haven't grabbed the opportunity yet. It could be a really good site, when it does get off the ground I hope we don't see the bias we had a few months ago. Maybe it should stick to the facts like the official Lancaster site. |
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Post by accykeef on Jun 13, 2010 11:44:07 GMT
A member moderated forum would be pefect for this kind of site. A place where discussion about local issues could involve real people rather than the political activists who try to hijack any group discussions. There will be the people with hidden agendas but a properly designed system of member censorship would keep profanity and personal insults off the site whilst keeping the site unbiased.
A forum which is moderated by an individual does not serve the best interests of anyone.
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Post by brian on Jun 13, 2010 12:07:40 GMT
Shrimpsvoices used to try and entice politicians online but never managed it. You won't get them posting replies on unofficial sites where they are not protected by their own moderators (which may be themselves). That leads to bias and it won't get used. You only have to remember the MTC web site discussion which tried to get arguments going about a 7 storey hotel on the promenade. Now, maybe they know something we don't or that was an incompetent/biased headline. Our crowd don't even bother to reply to emails, I wonder why they bother posting an email address then. I also notice the list of councillors now does not show home addresses, phone numbers or other contact details. That is an exception to most council sites and if you look on lancaster.gov.uk, any of them elected elsewhere in the district will have their personal details online. Maybe they don't like us actually trying to contact them. They obviously know what's best for us, or don't give a ..... SV is moderated by a group of 5 with 2 overseas, USA and Australia, which means there's a good chance of the wrong posts being zapped quickly. An active forum takes a lot of work, when I hosted SV I had the police and returning officer phoning in one incident thanks to a wild comment by someone suggesting they knew the result of the postal votes before an election day. They didn't, they were just winding someone up but ended up posting a formal apology for "a joke". I also have a forum, well, I would, wouldn't I? You'll see it is not intended to be used, weird for a forum but the reasons there to be read. You'll also see I pointed the one person that found it in this direction. I do think this forum could be promoted, the only downside is that proboards.com hosts a wide variety of forums some of which have managed to get proboard flagged as adult content to the likes of Orange. It can't be read on an Orange mobile by anyone under 18 or anyone who doesn't go through the hassle of convincing Orange they are over 18 and want "adult" sites unblocked. A java based live chat room for MFC was also blocked. Other mobile operators may do the same. www.baychat.co.uk/index.php |
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I had been telling my hubby about the time I was in Morecombe when the Moby Dick and Hotel was hit by lightening and burnt down. My parents, sister and myself had just come off the Moby Dick when lightening stuck