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Post by lifeboat1721 on Nov 12, 2008 18:58:36 GMT
I went up this afternoon, She is still on her side and the water is getting lower, I had a chat with a council chap who said that they may try and pump her out then tow her out and cut her up  I said that you would need a High volume pump (HVP) similar to the ones the fire brigade use for major floods, then had they thought of the suction now that she is bed in to the silt  His comment was well we could always lift her out ? I asked with what and he said that the Mersey Mammouth could lift 1000t now that is a new one on me. Ian |
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Post by trevnhil on Nov 12, 2008 20:42:37 GMT
Hi Ian. Re the 1,000 ton lifting capacity!!! It seems it would be news to the MM as well.  www.merseymammoth.com/Cheers. Trev.. |
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Nov 12, 2008 23:35:25 GMT
This is becoming quite a complicated saga now isn't it?
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Post by accykeef on Nov 13, 2008 7:39:22 GMT
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Nov 13, 2008 8:12:10 GMT
Goodness me that crane is huge. I can't imagine a crane big enough to have its crew living on board in 'quarters outfitted like a modern hotel' not to mention the full time chef! How would a thing like that fit into Heysham harbour?
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Nov 13, 2008 13:57:05 GMT
Hi Trev thanks for the link, and regarding the Gateshead crane, I don't think it would fit she is a big Sheer leg crane, and at the moment I don't think she is in UK waters  I personally think it is going to be a cut up job as the Abigail H has been underwater for a long time, plus you have to allow for the Extra Silt that has collected in its hoppers, and how far she has sunk. It all ads up, so it may be easier just to cut her up  Ian |
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Post by trevnhil on Nov 13, 2008 14:13:33 GMT
Hi Ian. I have to agree with you about cutting her up. They couldn't save the Riverdance and she was watertight.
Still an expensive job though.
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Nov 13, 2008 18:51:42 GMT
After a little more delving I found this.. Name: Abigail H IMO number: 5133553 Type: Grab hopper dredger Owner: Humber Work Boats Built by: Year: 1958 Total installed power: kW Hopper capacity: 230 m3 Length o.a.: 36,0 m Breadth: 8,5 m Draught: 3,3 m Speed: kn Dredging depth: m Remarks: - Equipped with a Priestman 350 dredging crane. History: - Previous name: 'Goole Bight' So. if the hopper capacity is 230 cubic mts then I think it is safe to say the weight of the ship is more likely to be the plus 300 tons one. Night night from me.... see you all tomorrow. Trev.. PS. Bow waves are minimal inside the harbour. nt nt Hi Trev, I have just had a thought in the Spec it lists a Priestman 350 dredging crane, I think if you look at the picks now you will see that she has a Jcb type Digger on the Bow, I wonder which was Heaviest  Ian |
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Post by trevnhil on Nov 14, 2008 7:27:28 GMT
Hi Ian. The Priestman does look SLIGHTLY larger. But it does not seem that it would affect the weight of the Abigail by much. I really cannot see them bring heavy lifting gear in this particular instance. See if you can get any info from 'Hancocks'  Regards. Trev.. |
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Nov 14, 2008 19:06:09 GMT
Hi trev lancs for your info, 'Hancocks' were NOT very helpfull at all they said that they would NOT pass info over the phone  This afternoon I went to the Harbour and had a chat with a couple of guys at the security point that they have set up on the north Quay and they said that the Mersey Mammouth had been booked to arrive on the 20th it sure getting confusing A couple of picks for you, you should be able to see the exact position that she went down just inside the North Rounhead,The White stone work on the Roundhead is where the Clipper Point rammed it a few months ago. They have Also dug a big trench which I assume is to help with access.   Ian |
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Post by trevnhil on Nov 14, 2008 19:51:40 GMT
Thanks for the up to date pictures Ian. So, we will wait to see what happens on Thursday the 20th then. It could be very interesting if they are going to try to lift it onto the cleared area  I would bet on it being cut up, and probably Hancocks doing it |
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Nov 14, 2008 19:59:56 GMT
No problems trev  my only thought was it's still quite a lift once she's even out of the water to drop her onto the Quay side, I bet someone has made a packet out of it though ;D Ian |
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Post by trevnhil on Nov 14, 2008 20:06:32 GMT
The lifting capacity of MM, and the weight of the Abigail are still a puzzle though.......
IMO: 5133553 #:
Name: ABIGAIL H
Former Names:
Type: Dredger
Year: 1958
Flag: Great Britain
GRT: 325
Cheers. Trev..
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Post by kidstypike on Nov 14, 2008 20:23:52 GMT
The lifting capacity of MM, and the weight of the Abigail are still a puzzle though....... IMO: 5133553 #: Name: ABIGAIL H Former Names: Type: Dredger Year: 1958 Flag: Great Britain GRT: 325 Cheers. Trev.. Tonnages of shipping can be very confusing. Some refer to the registered tonnage and some the dids[lacement tonnage which is more accurate. Dave |
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Post by lifeboat1721 on Nov 16, 2008 19:02:01 GMT
The lifting capacity of MM, and the weight of the Abigail are still a puzzle though....... IMO: 5133553 #: Name: ABIGAIL H Former Names: Type: Dredger Year: 1958 Flag: Great Britain GRT: 325 Cheers. Trev.. Tonnages of shipping can be very confusing. Some refer to the registered tonnage and some the dids[lacement tonnage which is more accurate. Dave Hi trev we need your help with this one Went up today and there has been no change at all. Ian |
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