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Post by accykeef on Oct 10, 2008 7:51:20 GMT
We would have to see the actual figures before being able to determine what has been included and what has been left out. We would also need to know more about where and when the census information was gathered. The problem with figures is that they can be accurate information but misleading. According to the County Council's website At present the traffic travelling to and from the peninsula across the West Coast Main Line railway is between 65000 and 70000 vehicles per day. The important part of this information is where are they coming from and going to. |
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Post by Sir Wilcomb on Oct 12, 2008 0:49:07 GMT
The western route makes the most sense to me but if the goverment believes that only 3% of the traffic is Heysham bound then they will of course have seen no justification for a road which will help people travel to and from that direction. There are problems accessing Lancaster from the north but this is aggravated by traffic elsewhere being directed north unneccessarily.
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Post by trevnhil on Dec 10, 2008 19:38:32 GMT
I found this old chestnut in today's Visitor......
Published Date: 10 December 2008
We've missed the transport boat
ON November 25, Geoff Hoon, the Secretary of State for Transport announced the publication of a paper entitled 'Delivering a Sustainable Transport System'.
To look at it, simply Google the title – compared to some of the news we are getting these days it doesn't make bad reading!
It details spending around £300million on a number of future road-building projects and yet there is no mention of our very own M6-to-Heysham link.
It talks about opening up access to our major sea gateways and lists the top 10 ports – Heysham is not amongst them. So are we off Mr Hoon's radar?
If we are, this is obviously good news for those of us who realise that the proposed link will do nothing to alleviate our main traffic problems and could perhaps be a little light at the end of a very long tunnel.
On an even brighter note, perhaps there would then be some money available to look at the real problems and address them in a more sustainable way.
John Gow
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Is he right. Has the M6 link been pushed to the back of the queue. Or has it been quietly dropped altogether. ??
Regards. Trev..
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Post by trevnhil on Jan 28, 2009 17:19:39 GMT
Well it is certainly not dead then...
Published Date: 28 January 2009
PLANS for the Heysham M6 link road have reached a new milestone as the government awards the scheme 'Programme Entry' status.
The Department for Transport has announced that the £137 million proposals have gained the first level of approval for the project
County Councillor Matthew Tomlinson, Cabinet member for sustainable development, said: "I am pleased that the SecreADVERTISEMENTtary of State has awarded us Programme Entry status. This is very positive news for the M6 Link project and means that we can move forward with the plans for this worthwhile scheme.
"The county's team will be working hard to progress the scheme through the rest of the legal processes. Once complete the new link road should greatly i mprove the inter-urban road network in and around Lancaster and Heysham."
Main highway works are due to commence in 2010 with an expected completion date of 2014.
The proposed route connects the already built length of the A683 Heysham to M6 Link, at its junction with the A589 Morecambe Road near Torrisholme, to a fully remodelled junction 34 on the M6 motorway.
The route is a 4.8km long two-lane dual carriageway all-purpose road with intermediate junctions and a combined footway/cycleway along its full length. The scheme includes alterations to the local road network including existing junctions.
Twenty-three major structures will need to be built including bridges over the West Coast Mainline railway, Lancaster Canal and the River Lune.
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Post by accykeef on Jan 28, 2009 18:00:11 GMT
So Western route, the one which makes the most sense is dead in the water in favour of one which cuts a swathe through residential areas as well as including a really low bridge near Halton which is likely to cause severe flooding.
Do these people have any brains at all?
And will it make any difference?
I very much doubt it, it will be clogged up at peak periods by parents ferrying their little darlings the 300yds to school in their Chelsea tractors.
I am favour of a road but it has to be one which does some good.
What is wrong with a road which makes Heysham Port more attractive to the imort/export trade. Heysham is revitalised, Morecambe and Lancaster benefit from more tourists which generates more jobs which generates the housing market which generates the building industry which reduces the dole queues which saves the Government money so they can bail out some more businesses which have been run down by their lousy managers over the years.
Or
We can fall out amonst ourselves and end up spending a fortune on a nothing scheme
The choice is not ours - because we have no say in the matter.
OOH I do feel better now!
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Post by gnasher on Jan 28, 2009 19:45:29 GMT
I blame the newts for blocking the Western route. We should have sent the kids out with their jam jars, caught them and dumped them out of town somewhere (along with some councillors ;D )
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Jan 28, 2009 20:00:25 GMT
Why couldn't newts have been incorporated within the plan in some way? Surely there could be a little leway. When our Temple was built at Chorley there was a newt problem but it was incorporated into the design and they were even given an extra pond with a link beneath the roadway.
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Post by trevnhil on Jan 28, 2009 20:23:25 GMT
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Jan 28, 2009 22:45:35 GMT
Ill have to have a look at this tomorrow. My PC refuses to read PDF files.
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Post by gnasher on Jan 28, 2009 23:47:41 GMT
It has made me realise how very close to some properties it is. Look where it crosses Torrisholme road.
It sure does go close. In '78 I bought some property in Torrisholme. My solicitor told me about the plans for a relief road that would pass a few hundred yards away but I took the decision I still wanted to buy the property - that was my risk. Apparently the plans have been around since the mid 60s. People like Broadoaks annoy me, they are campaigning against the road yet at the time they bought the property (long after I bought mine) their own local searches should have told them about the new road. They would have taken the same decision I did.
The only people I have sympathy with are those who have lived in their houses long before the new road was dreamed up.
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Post by trevnhil on Jan 29, 2009 8:27:20 GMT
Ill have to have a look at this tomorrow. My PC refuses to read PDF files. Have you got the latest version of 'Adobe Acrobat ' ?? Regards. Trev. |
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Jan 29, 2009 8:42:21 GMT
What I haven't got is a hard drive which works properly. There is a fault but I'm still waiting for a man who will do something to sort it out.
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Post by trevnhil on Jan 29, 2009 12:44:58 GMT
Just for all the people who can't see a PDF file on their computers.  ...... Here are SOME of the major junctions. The quality of these pictures leaves a bit to be desired because they are pictures of my laptop screen. This is the junction nearest to Torrisholme square, where the new road crosses Torrisholme road.  The next picture is where the new road crosses Slyne road.  The next picture is the junction with the new roundabout prior to going on the M6 Northbound.  The next picture is the link road over the new River Lune bridge if you were going to Lancaster or the M6 Southbound  And the final picture is where you come off the M6 both from the south and from the North. And the Southbound M6 entrance.  One of the junctions that I haven't shown is where the new road crosses Morecambe road near McDonald's. It is a roundabout at the moment and it will be come a traffic light controlled cross roads. Cheers. Trev.. |
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Post by WillowTheWhisp on Jan 29, 2009 13:22:12 GMT
Thanks Trev. That junction where McDonalds is can get very busy, or at least it often has been when we've been there, and I'm a bit puzzled as to how bringing this new road into it and having traffic lights is going to improve traffic flow. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Post by trevnhil on Jan 29, 2009 14:28:57 GMT
No........ I don't think so. ;D I too thought that roundabouts improved traffic flows.   Regards. Trev.. |
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I had been telling my hubby about the time I was in Morecombe when the Moby Dick and Hotel was hit by lightening and burnt down. My parents, sister and myself had just come off the Moby Dick when lightening stuck